Systems Dialectics: The Development of A New World View -- WU Jie, August 3, 2002

46th Annual Meeting of the International Society for the Systems Sciences (ISSS), Shanghai, P.R. China, August 2-6, 2002.

Saturday, August 3, 2002, 9:10 a.m.

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Change in sequence of speakers, due to technical issues.

Introduction by Professor Michael C. JACKSON

Professor WU Jie

Note: This talk was conducted with simultaneous translation by two interpreters (to varying degrees of success!)

Topic today is Systems Dialectics: The Development of a New World View

This thought was developed years ago, and elaborated in some books that Wu wrote.

Have also provided 3 dissertations on systems dialectics: solving 3 problems.

1. The development of China

In volume 3 and 4 on capital by Marx, he presented some ideas, relevant 150 years ago.

Karl Marx contributed some ideas on systems.

Angyos has mentioned the issue of one and many.

It is unfortunate that in the 50 years of socialist constructions, system principles weren't used.

2. Since formation of the PR China, used construction with Cultural Revolution, Great Leap Forward, etc., weren't applicable to China.

Have some success stories: development of atom bomb, cable tv, development of Three Gorges project

If we still apply the traditional means from the Cultural Revolution, we won't be able to catch up to the western world.

Zheng Zemin says the theoretical development should be in advance of practical development.

In the last 20 minutes, the major topic for this meeting.

3. System dialectics and the dialectics of materialism.

Thinking of 400 years ago has been outdated.

Today, would like to share some systems issues.

Today, will focus on a few fundamental laws.

1. Law of over-optimization.

2. The law of structural change

3. Differences in structure

(4?) Sequence will also distinguish system dialectics from material dialectics

Key to change will the change in structural thinking.

Third law: Level transformation.

Fourth law of systems dialectics: differences and synergy.

Can we achieve a win-win situation with the western world.

Four fundamental laws, borrowing a quotation from a famous physicist and philosopher.

China has had 20 years of reform, and opening up.

Famous Chinese physicist:

Economist Stiglitz

Wish you happy stay in Shanghai, and a successful meeting.


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